Re: Fun with fog at Fremont Peak and Coe

I go to FP mainly so I don't need to mess too much with batteries.
However, fyi I do the observer membership and setup behind the gate.
Also, the surface is a bit nicer at FP.. Somewhat flat and paved.
(though the pads are not paved, as far as I am concerned.)

In my experience coe is good when there is fog, and still fairly dark in the
east w/o fog.

I guess I just like the amenities at FP a bit better (warming room, 110v
etc).

Fwiw, I've been skunked at FP a bunch.. And also had numerous nights
"sitting just above the clouds". Sometimes it is easy to predict the fog
situation, sometimes it is a roll of the dice.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tac-bounces@No-Spam
> [mailto:tac-bounces@No-Spam] On Behalf Of Rogelio
> Bernal Andreo
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 1:22 AM
> To: TAC mailing list
> Subject: Re: [TAC] Fun with fog at Fremont Peak and Coe
>
> Um, well please keep in mind what I said - I tend to go to
> Coe much more
> often than to FP, mainly because on good nights sky quality
> doesn't seem
> very different, and to me FP is a 1/2 hour longer drive. So *my*
> probability of experiencing different conditions at Coe is
> higher than
> at FP.
>
> You should also get input from people who have been up at FP (and why
> not, also Coe) much more often than I have. I just wouldn't
> want you to
> jump into conclusions from one single experience from someone
> who hasn't
> been doing this as long as many other people on this list
> have. I guess
> that when the fog kicks in, both sites are great, and both
> can be risky.
>
>
>
>
>
> Brad Whitehead wrote:
> > Interesting, it's good to hear the fog perspectives. I was
> certainly
> > wondering if FP was the best place to go that night (I would have
> > thought it was due to elevation) and if it was worth
> sticking around
> > after the fog had rolled in a couple times to see if it
> might go away.
> > Of course in the end it was the dew on the telescope that
> had the final
> > say. Maybe next time I'll try henry coe instead of FP.
> >
> > That's a great shot Rogelio.
> >
> > Brad.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:04 PM, Rogelio Bernal Andreo
> <rba@No-Spam
> > <mailto:rba@No-Spam>> wrote:
> >
> > I have seen as described in an OR from this last
> week the fog
> > come up
> > and go down at the Peak but usually it is the end
> once it comes in.
> >
> >
> > My experience is limited, as I only started "going
> places" on December
> > 2007, but during that time I've been fogged up at Coe,
> MB and FP,
> > and sometimes seen the fog magically go down both at Coe and MB
> > (especially at Coe), but never at FP. That might also
> be because for
> > every trip to FP I usually take 8 to Coe and 4 to MB (!)
> >
> > Yesterday chatting with George Feliz and Marek Chianski up at
> > Montebello (a night where a light layer of fog actually
> stayed below
> > MB), we talked about the photo I took last August up at
> Montebello
> > Road. It's a nice image of somewhat what a "dark cloud
> night" may
> > look from above, except that because of the 30 seconds
> exposure (and
> > because I "stretched" the image to show the fog), the fog below
> > actually looks MUCH brighter in the photo - in reality,
> as most of
> > you know, when the fog layer is thick and dense (as it was that
> > night), your eyes won't see almost any light, just a
> beautiful and
> > spooky dark blanket, and a sky packed with stars:
> >
> >
> http://deepskycolors.com/pics/astro/2008/08/08-23-2008_Moon_M4
5_plain.jpg
> >
> > Besides the fog all the way to the East Bay, you can see some
> > recognizable shapes there: Moon, Pleiades, a risign
> Orion, etc. The
> > top-right corner is deprived of stars because the image
> is a mosaic,
> > and the mosaic didn't cover that area.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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