Re: Long response to "TAC general BA astro or..."

From: Rich N. (RNAPO@No-Spam)
Date: Tue Oct 30 2001 - 12:10:28 MST

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    Did you also read my reply to Bruce?

    Rich

    >"Rich N." wrote:
    >
    >> Hi Richard,
    >>
    >> It sounds like you are saying, "Screw you guys. I'm going to
    >> do what I want." That's always nice to hear from someone
    >> relatively new to the list.
    >
    >Well I guess you could interpret it that way if that's your mindset. You
    could
    >also interpret it as meaning that I have received lots of email by back
    channel
    >that says, "go ahead and post links and if the other guys have a problem
    with
    >it, then so be it". I've received as many pieces of mail from folks that
    lurk
    >that want to see the images as I have seen diatribes from old hands that
    want to
    >control the content of the postings.
    >
    >I think that a number of the old hands sort of have the "screw you I'll do
    what
    >I want" attitude as well. Only it seems to be viewed differently depending
    on
    >from where it comes. For example a recent posting by an "old hand" about a
    >piece of scrap aluminum tubing that is up for grabs technically has nothing
    to
    >do with observing but seemed to be tolerated. I think it was nice that the
    >tubing posting was made and that it was offered free to anyone that wanted
    it,
    >but then I don't take a narrow definition of what is and is not acceptable
    for
    >this list. Another recent example is the long thread about green lasers
    started
    >by an "old hand". Those have no loggings in them, are not talking about
    faint
    >fuzzies or open clusters (sorry Richard N) or even observing sites. Yet the
    >postings were made, the thread was followed and no one complained. And
    again I
    >am happy that the group chipped in to buy one for the ranger at Lassen.
    >
    >I have no problem at all with those postings, but cited them solely to
    expose
    >the hypocrisy among the "don't post image links because they have nothing
    to do
    >with observing" crowd. Bottom line is that there's lots of non-observing
    report
    >traffic here and only some of it seems to get the fur of the old hands
    riled up.
    >So what sort of "off topic" posts are OK or does it depend on WHO it is
    that is
    >posting them?
    >
    >Clearly there are at least two camps here: those that do not want links
    posted
    >and those that do. There are also pragmatic folks that know how to skip
    over
    >postings they don't want to read and are willing to do so. Personally I
    think
    >this controversy is more about controlling others behavior (ie the "net
    nanny"
    >phenomenon) than it has to do wiith any unambiguous regulations, rules or
    >operating procedures. But that's my opinion.
    >
    >What's a newbie to do? Should I continue to post links as quite a number
    have
    >asked me to do, or should I not?
    >
    >I had already agreed that Richard N's suggestion of a weekly synopsis was
    fine,
    >and the only thing that stirred this hornet's nest again is that I
    mentioned in
    >reply to Baldwin's posting regarding a dearth of traffic is that one reason
    >could be is that I've not posted any links lately. I submit that I was
    right, as
    >soon as I talked about links, all sorts of traffic popped up and at least
    one
    >old hand apparently decided to pick up his marbles and go play some place
    else.
    >
    >Again, links to images bear on the fundamentals about what observing is all
    >about. The images are highly relevant and more so than green lasers or
    aluminum
    >tubing. But I think all that traffic belongs here as it is all topical and
    has
    >to do with what we all enjoy doing.
    >
    >It will be nice when the sky is good for observing again so the group can
    get
    >focused on what has made it great.
    >rdc
    >



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